As long as Overdiluted has been in existence, I’ve been writing about the movements of Hurricane. A producer from Luton, England, Hurricane has graced these pages many times with fresh and intriguing sounds that–even at the frantic pace that Soundcloud moves–stand out as something a little different, a little special.
In that time, he’s never been one to rush things or feel any pressure to put out a certain amount of music. Hurricane’s been on somewhat of a journey over these last three years, which culminates in Textures; his soon to be released debut EP, which I’m more than excited about.
Last year, Hurricane worked on a mix for Overdiluted that I called Nouveau Venu, which is French for newcomer. The name came from the fact we’d been connecting while working away on our respective projects since we both started out. It’s nice to look back and see how far you’ve come and what you’ve achieved, which is why it only seems right to kick off the move toward the release of Textures with something here on Overdiluted.
We’ve been talking about meeting up to shoot for the last couple of years. On potentially the foggiest, most depressing March day, we linked up in Brighton to finally make it happen. While you patiently wait for the first single from Textures to drop, which is happening on the 31st of March, we suggest you get to know a little bit about the guy behind the music.
Check out the shoot and transcript of the entire interview below to hear about what’s been happening over the last three years, the value of moving back home and the problems with being a perfectionist.
All images by Jacob Story.
OD: I wanted to start by going through how I find you, through your brother’s blog. I’ve not even read it that much, I just read it this one time and read about you and then wrote something about it myself. What had you been doing before then? Because since then, I’ve been following you pretty closely.
I remember when you reached out. Around that time was when I was properly like “okay, I’m gonna do this tape”. I think I’d just moved to London, or was just moving to London, so I was just starting uni. So I was just working on stuff from home. I was never really around many musicians, so I think that is the difference between before you met me and now. The experience of living in London, working in London. Meeting people with the same interests as me, the same goals as me.
Now, I’m the complete opposite. I don’t want to be in London, I’ve gone full circle. I kind of feel like my music has as well, it’s got the point where I know exactly what I want to do with it. So I’m doing just that, and working with the people I want to work with.
OD: Had you put much out before that?
Like one or two tracks… release-wise no, just Soundcloud stuff. It was around that point my brother was like “you need to take this seriously, what you’re doing”. I always wanted to put stuff online, but it’s only now that I’m happy with the project. It’s taken me from then until now to understand what I want to be… a producer or just be in the background kinda thing. I want people to look at me as an artist and not just a producer. I think it took me that long period of going round in a full circle and coming back home to work it out.
OD: You were pretty much one of the first things I wrote about. It’s so old I think I’ve deleted that blog because I changed things a bit. Basically the whole time I’ve been doing it, I’ve been writing about you.
I went on it the other day and I was like “oh there’s me… there’s me again”.
OD: I’ve written about you so much haha, like every time you’ve put something out.
It’s crazy that this is the first time we’ve met as well.
OD: I know, we’ve been talking about it for so long! How did you start out making beats and all that?
I started like seven years ago. When I started out I was doing grime and the stuff I was listening to. I used to rap but I was never that interested in rapping, I was more like “how do you do that?” and wanted to learn how to make beats. So I think at that point it was just me learning how to use the programmes, learning how to play keys. Then I just made beats until I got good and I think that, from the first thing you picked up and wrote about until now… I guess you could say it’s been a journey. I can kinda see the difference.
How did you land on that sound you’ve been doing?
I find it hard to explain... however I feel at that moment, I’ll make it. Or if someone wants me to do something in particular then I’ll listen to that kinda style to make it, but I never have anything in mind when I make stuff. I just sit down and make it.
I feel like the last few years I’ve been working out what I make and then mixing that with what people like and what I like… just getting it half and half. I think that’s the hardest thing, I have so much stuff on my computer that I hate! There’s a few tracks that I put out that I hate and people are like “yeah, this is so good”, I’m like “I was never even gonna put it out!”.
There was one tune, I was never gonna put it out. I was recording with someone and we had three or four sessions. I played this tune every time and they were like “yo, you’ve got to put this out”. So I put it out and loads of people started sharing it, reposting it. Before that, I was like “I don’t like it, I’m not gonna finish it”. It’s now one of my most played songs.
OD: It must be hard to know when something is good enough, when you’re just working on it and working on it.
I think that’s what my problem is. I keep going back and changing things. I keep going back to stuff for like six months. My new project – it was completed in August. I think I messaged you back then as well like “it’s nearly done”. Then I go back to stuff and think “I need this to be better”. If I make a song today, I’ll put it on my phone for a couple days, listen to it, change what I need to change.
So I think, for me, like now with this new project, it’s hard because it’s completely done and about 10 people have heard it and I’m thinking that I don’t know if it’s good enough. I’m not too sure but then at the same time, I’ve been doing it for six months, so I know it’s good. I don’t need to tell myself anything, I know it’s good. I just want to get other people’s opinion on it, I don’t know how other people are going to take it. I need to play it the right person, like yourself or my brother who will understand it, maybe? You can never gauge how well something’s going to do.
As long as people listen to it, I’ll be happy. I don’t care about sales or nothing.
OD: Is there anything you’d say is different in the sound or you’ve just reached a point where you have tried stuff out and put it all together?
I’ve showed bits of this sound before, but as a whole project–I was explaining this to someone the other day–if I was to describe myself as a producer, I think this project would be the way to do it. Not that I don’t like making stuff for other people, but for myself. If someone wanted me to show them my music, I’d tell them to listen to this project and this will define me.
I think without going into it too much, that’s the best way to describe it. I always find it so hard to explain what kind of music I make.
OD: It is hard to do!
I don’t know how you’ve done it. You always come up with something that sounds so good and I’ll run with that. People always ask me what I do, to explain it, but I can’t really, you’ve just got to listen to it.
OD: In a good way, I’ve found it hard to define, which I think is cool.
Whenever someone asks me, I just point to a friend and get them to explain it in five seconds. They always do it and I’ll never say anything. It’s a feeling, it’s a mood.
OD: Your music is pretty chill and I always think, because of how I am, if I was a producer I’d make a song to turn up to every time. Is it intentional to try not to do that? Because a lot of people are doing Soundcloud stuff that’s big, heavy and all that.
I look at that stuff and I could do it, but I think me–as a person–I’m chill and I’m laidback. Nothing really makes me angry. I’m just a relaxed person and I always get told I’m relaxed. I think that definitely shows in my music.
I do want to change it, I don’t just want to be known for chilled stuff. I would like to do something hard hitting and crazy but I think I don’t want to do that straight away because I don’t want to change my sound too much. If I was producing for someone, I could do it, I think I would keep that kinda stuff more for like artists and tracks. My stuff, I’ll keep it exactly what I want it to be.
Sometimes I do just wanna do that kinda stuff, but it’s all about feeling. If I’m feeling a certain way, I’ll make songs that way. If I’m annoyed or angry I’ll make some angry song. I’m sure you can go through my project and work out how I was feeling. You can literally tell from each song.
OD: One thing I’ve always thought, I think I’ve written it, is that every time I’m not in the UK and it’s sunny, I always listen to your music.
Really? Someone said to me the other day that my music is just happy.
OD: Even my Dad likes it.
Haha, really? I like it when other people describe it. If that’s what it makes you feel, then that’s how you describe it. It’s definitely a feeling.
OD: I think that’s a good way to sum it up. You mentioned rapping when you were younger, are you ever tempted to jump on a one-off track?
I might be on my next tape. I wrote a hook for a track, but I’m not going to tell anyone which one or anything. People will start to question who is on that track… and I’ll be like, just remember it’s me haha!
One day before Christmas I made a beat that I really, really liked and I was on my own. I woke up, wrote it, plugged my mic in and just did it. It didn’t sound great, but I had the idea. I just randomly did it, it’s the first time I’ve done it in like six or seven years.
That’s why I started to producing, to rap on my own tracks. I just got too much into producing, didn’t even think about rapping. I’d like to be able to do a whole track, play all the instruments, rap, everything. That would be cool.